creates jobs. construction jobs are real jobs. >> we threw a graphic up there. $300 billion in the budget for fixing roads and bridges already. but they want to raise more. >> well, eric, a 1 cent tax raises $1.8 billion. if you put it in and it's done on a budget and they finance these things like any private enterprise would do where you say i'm going to okay, i can repair so much this year, next year, et cetera, et cetera, and do it on a rational basis there is nothing wrong. the fact that people are stealing the money. >> eric, ever done anything on a rational bases in d.c. >> they built the roads in the first place. >> ideally, they protect our rights, they don't run roads and sally pays a horrific picture of poor people not affording the toll. that's not the case in privatized roads, that's not the case throughout europe where this is practiced. i'll tell you it's not just people who will pay the tolls.